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This is Bob Odenkirk, and this is the Wired autocomplete interview.
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Odenkirk, an actual lawyer, you know what a TV is, right?
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When did Bob Odenkirk start acting?
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About the third season of Better Call Saul.
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Most of my career, I was a comedy writer, and then I performed as a sketch actor in many, many sketches because that's what I wrote.
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But it was kind of a fundamentally different thing to take on the role of Saul Goodman, Jimmy McGill in Better Call Saul, even different than Breaking Bad.
0:40
I think there was a level of acting of losing yourself in a role, of knowing a character in Better Call Saul than anything I'd ever done.
0:48
I think I got more of a handle on it as it went.
0:52
Third season was one I remember showing up going, you know, let's go to work, I know what I know what I need to do.
0:58
Where's Bob Odenkirk's star?
1:01
It's on Vine, north of Hollywood Boulevard, by about a block and a half.
1:05
It's where we shot a Mr. Show scene.
1:10
You could look it up on YouTube, it's 'Pumpkin Anny', and then you'll see me right where my star is, but I didn't know I'd have a star there one day.
1:14
When does Bob Odenkirk appear in Breaking Bad?
1:16
The final four episodes of the second season, and I was only in three of them because I had to do How I Met Your Mother.
1:22
And because I had to do How I Met Your Mother, they had to invent another character to pull that plot along, and they invented Mike Ehrmantraut.
1:36
So thank God I was on How I Met Your Mother because they could invent Mike, and then me and John Banks could do Better Call Saul.
1:36
Bob Odenkirk, Larry David.
1:36
When I was at Saturday Night Live as a writer for three and a half years, I used to do the improv here in New York, and Larry David would go up too.
1:36
And he would just get mad at the audience, and he would be getting laughs, but he would get angry at them, and you'd be like, Larry, they liked you!
1:36
He killed me, he kills me, he's the funniest guy.
1:36
I love Curb, and I love being on Curb, that was so much fun.
1:36
Bob Odenkirk, van down by the river.
1:36
I grew up in Chicago and I went and saw Second City when I was 14, and it really inspired me to want to be in showbiz and sort of believe that, you know, adult people work in showbiz.
2:16
My friend Tom Giannis was directing the main stage show at Second City.
2:25
He invited me to join and be a part of that show.
2:25
So I said yes, I helped write the show in the course of writing that show.
2:25
In the cast was Chris Farley, and I went home that night and I wrote the motivational speaker for Chris Farley, exactly the way you see it when he does it on SNL, except for the table breaking, which was added by Robert Smigel.
2:25
That's the story of that.
2:46
How did Bob Odenkirk get cast in Breaking Bad?
2:54
A real good question, and one I hesitated to ask because I didn't want to get kicked out of Breaking Bad.
2:51
I didn't want them to rethink their choice.
2:57
And Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould, who wrote the character of Saul Goodman into the first script that he was in in Breaking Bad, were both fans of Mr. Show and both thought I was the guy to play the part.
3:12
I don't know why Vince Gilligan is the smartest guy in the room, but he pretends not to be.
3:16
He's got this performance that he does, you could call it the 'aw shucks' guy.
3:21
He secretly knows that he's working really, really hard, and he's also smart as so he listens to people very, very politely, he's never, ever rude, and then he does what he's going to do, and it's it's the right thing every damn time.
3:41
How did Bob Odenkirk and David Cross meet?
3:39
It's a famous story.
3:43
Janeane Garofalo was the kind of queen pin of the alternative comedy scene back in '92, '93.
3:47
I was sitting in my house in the afternoon eating lunch.
3:55
Janeane came to my door, the screen door was shut, and she's standing outside with her friend David Cross, and he has a basketball.
3:57
She knocks on the door and I'm sitting right there and I'm looking over here and she goes, 'Hey Bob!'
4:07
I go, 'Hey Janeane, uh, this is my friend David Cross from Boston.'
4:03
'Hey you guys, uh, he likes to play basketball, I know you do too, do you want to play?'
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And I go, 'Nah, I'm eating.'
4:11
And then they left.
4:15
It was one of the most embarrassing things in David's life.
4:18
How is Bob Odenkirk?
4:21
Thank you for asking.
4:21
I did have a heart incident, also could be called a heart attack, feel free.
4:26
My Widowmaker artery was totally blocked, so you know, that's not good.
4:32
Take my medicine, I got two stents in here, working out, hopefully going to get to do another action film because I loved making that first one.
5:19
I'm doing great, thank you.
5:19
Okey dokey.
5:19
Where is Bob Odenkirk from?
5:19
I grew up in Naperville, Illinois, a really nice town and nice people and all that.
5:19
I was very bored with the town when I was 15, but I sure enjoyed being a kid there, and I don't mind going back, I like it there.
5:19
I go visit my sisters who still live there.
5:19
Can Bob Odenkirk still win an Emmy?
5:19
Yeah, but I think every five nominations equals a win.
5:19
Can Bob Odenkirk sing?
5:19
No, no, no, no, I cannot, but I will.
5:19
I'm a terrible singer and I love to make people listen to me sing.
5:19
Does Bob Odenkirk play guitar?
5:19
Not well, I can play though, I can hack around on it.
5:19
Bob Odenkirk, Lucky Hank.
5:19
Lucky Hank is a unique show in that it's kind of 50/50 comedy and drama.
5:28
That's not easy to do because if you get too silly, you stop believing in the stakes of the dramatic part.
5:36
So you need to stay connected with the people, you need to believe in those hungers and desires and problems, and yet there are also some pretty purely funny scenes.
5:45
There are no zombies, there are no guns, there are no drugs, there's no drug cartel, there's no mafia.
5:49
There's people in academia, they're professors and students at a small college that's having financial problems and they try to make a go of it, which is to say it's like life.
6:05
What did Bob Odenkirk write on SNL?
6:05
Not much.
6:08
I was not a very effective writer on Saturday Night Live, I struggled mightily.
6:12
I really wanted to help out at the show, but I hadn't focused enough on SNL when I got there to ask what does this show do, what does it need to do, what does it want to do?
6:22
I just wanted to write something that made me laugh.
6:24
I was very lucky, I was sort of helping out Robert Smigel, who was maybe the best writer they've ever had at Saturday Night Live, but I only helped.
6:31
I only wrote a couple jokes in there, maybe gave it a turn.
6:35
I actually got better towards the end, I was able to help Chris Rock and Farley and Sandler to put some scenes up and of course I wrote the motivational speaker for Chris Farley, so that's the best thing I did for SNL.
6:46
But I wrote that in Chicago for Second City, not for SNL.
6:55
What has Bob Odenkirk directed?
6:55
I've directed a couple feature films and many episodes of TV that you've never seen.
6:55
I mean the movies didn't turn out great, but in some ways they were successful to me.
6:55
Let's Go to Prison, I really wanted it to feel like a 70s Black exploitation film and we had a lot of fun with the camera like they did in those movies and we wanted it to have a gritty feel because the material, the subject matter is kind of rough stuff but it just didn't win people over.
7:18
Brother Solomon, admittedly I didn't know what I was doing.
7:21
I knew how to direct but I just didn't know how to make this movie work.
7:25
Will Forte wrote that script and it's full of heart and it's really sweet and fun, and everybody of course showed up to work and then I let them down.
8:15
I wish I could reshoot that, and if I could, I would reshoot it as an indie film with no built sets and those characters interacting with real people as much as possible.
8:15
Be a better idea than what I did.
8:15
What episode of The Office is Bob Odenkirk on?
8:15
It was like season six or seven or something.
8:15
The joke was they said Jenna's character, uh, goes to interview for a job somewhere else, it turns out her boss would just be a duplicate of Michael Scott, so I was kind of riffing on Steve Carell's excellent performance when I did that.
8:15
What episode of Seinfeld does Bob Odenkirk in?
8:15
The abstinence one where nobody's having sex and it's making them smarter because they're not having sex, and I play a doctor who's going to take the MCATs and he does well because he, because Elaine won't have sex with him.
8:21
What did Bob Odenkirk do in The Incredibles?
8:22
I played the network executive who wants to give them a show and sculpt them in certain ways.
8:29
I seem to be the bad guy, spoiler alert, I'm not.
8:32
The character is a genuine character who loves the the family of The Incredibles.
8:40
Did Bob Odenkirk audition for Michael Scott?
8:44
I did, I couldn't wait to audition.
8:46
I did my best, I think I did a great job.
8:52
Supposedly it was between me and Carell, and he got it and he did so great and he's the best, the best at Michael Scott.
8:52
Did Bob Odenkirk write Better Call Saul?
8:59
I didn't, I didn't write any of it.
9:01
Occasionally we'd get a scene that was kind of pure funny and then I would feel more free to suggest to Peter Gould, you know, how about I say this or that, but that show was not one where you goofed around or improvised.
9:16
Did Bob Odenkirk write for The Simpsons?
9:15
I didn't, my brother Bill did for many, many years.
9:16
He also has a doctorate in chemistry from the University of Chicago.
9:21
Did Bob Odenkirk play football?
9:24
I played football on my junior high team.
9:26
I was really a little guy and they put me in safety.
9:28
I did okay but everyone was so much bigger than me.
9:34
Bob Odenkirk, Robin Williams.
9:34
Robin Williams was extremely kind to me and David Cross when we did Comic Relief 8.
9:43
Our show, Mr. Show with Bob and David, was not a massive hit, it was the definition of a cult hit.
9:49
We were invited to do Comic Relief 8 and uh nobody knew who we were.
9:54
The other two hosts kind of rolled their eyes at us and Robin came up to us and said, 'You guys are great.'
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And he had seen Mr. Show, he loved comedy, it meant a lot to me, you know.
10:03
And then I got to be in a movie with him.
10:15
I think it was his last film, Boulevard.
10:15
I very much enjoyed uh performing with him.
10:10
That was hard, how that ended.
10:13
Bob Odenkirk, Little Women.
10:13
An unbelievable gift.
10:15
I have two kids of my own and the book is one of the greatest books of all time.
10:20
That cast is a ridiculously talented, wonderful cast.
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Greta Gerwig is an amazing director.
10:25
We had so much fun, I had so much fun just being around the energy of that young cast and I absolutely love and and will always be thankful I got to play Father March.
10:39
Bob Odenkirk, Larry Sanders.
10:39
I got to play Stevie Grant on The Larry Sanders Show.
10:43
It was really my first acting gig.
10:45
I know we talked about my first acting, that probably is really it.
10:49
Larry Sanders is a great show if you've never seen it, it's a comedy but played very grounded.
10:53
It was a wonderful thing to be a part of, just all good actors and great to be on that set.
10:58
Bob Odenkirk, book review.
11:01
Thanks for asking.
11:01
I should do a book review show because I read a lot, and lately my favorite book's one's called Guilty of Everything by John Aubert Armstrong.
11:16
He was in a rock band, The Modernettes, and he's a great writer, and I'm reading another of his books right now called Wages and it's hilarious.
11:16
I also published a memoir last year, Comedy, Comedy, Comedy, Drama, that tells you a lot of the stories I just told you or in more depth.
11:16
Also I have a book coming out, a book that I I wrote with my kids when they were little, and it's a book of poems and it's called Zilot, Z-I-L-O-T, Zilot.
11:16
Well there you go, that's all there is to know about me, thank you for asking.