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Hi, I'm Derek Muller, the creator of the Veritasium YouTube channel, and this is the Wired autocomplete interview.
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That's a weird place.
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I'd like websites with feet.
0:17
Who is Veritasium Guy on YouTube?
0:17
My approach to making YouTube videos has always been, this is about a thing, an idea, a piece of science, and it's not about me, so I don't announce my name, but I'm Derek.
0:30
Hi, nice to meet you.
0:30
What does Veritasium mean in Latin?
0:33
Well, it's kind of a made up word.
0:37
The start of the word Veritas is Latin for truth, and then adding 'ium' on the end makes it sound like an element, an element of truth, get it?
0:51
A lot of people thought that I had picked the name from Harry Potter, because in Harry Potter there's Veritaserum, which is a truth serum, which of course again makes sense based on the Latin Veritas, but I haven't actually read Harry Potter, so for me, this as well as just an element of truth.
0:51
What software does Veritasium use?
0:48
A funny thing about me is that I only use Final Cut Pro X.
1:11
So when I'm making a thumbnail, like a lot of people will go to Photoshop, so when you see the text on my thumbnails, all of that I add in Final Cut, because it's just, that's my home, that's the place that I know.
1:21
If you see bad animations in my video, I've probably cobbled them together in Final Cut Pro.
1:28
If you see good animations, they were made by someone else in a different piece of software, probably After Effects.
1:34
Where does Derek Muller live?
1:34
Currently living in Los Angeles.
1:38
Parents were South African, I was born in Australia, I grew up in Canada, and now I live in LA, so I've been all over and who knows how long we'll stay here.
1:49
Derek Muller accent.
1:52
My accent, I feel like, is generally North American.
1:55
I try to fit in wherever I go, so here in the states, I try to basically just sound American.
2:00
In the early videos, I did sound a bit Australian, because I was living in Australia, and even when I say the word Australian, then I start to sound a bit Australian.
2:07
So this is me doing an Australian accent, which frankly is not that good, and Australians, we're gonna cringe and they'll say, 'Oh, that's a terrible accent, that's getting a little bit Kiwi, isn't it?'
2:16
What is he doing?
2:18
Anyway, if I have a few drinks and I'm talking to people in Australia, then normally my accent starts to shift a little bit, like an empathy thing, right?
2:24
When Derek Muller was young.
2:24
I guess at all times before now.
2:28
I grew up in the 90s, I want to say, and I graduated high school in 2000, that's when I was young.
2:34
I am now almost 40 years old, which is crazy.
2:39
Is Derek Muller married?
2:39
Yes, to a beautiful, wonderful wife, Raquel, uh, who's a planetary geologist, a wonderful mother to my three children, which is amazing.
2:52
Veritasium had to go viral.
2:52
A couple years ago, I made a video about how a video of mine went viral, and immediately after that, I made a video about how that video went viral, and the answer is, I guess, a couple simple things.
3:06
One, a lot of people wanted to click on that video, the click-through rate was good, and two, people stayed watching the video once they clicked on it.
3:13
In my mind, the hardest thing about YouTube is people knowing that you even exist, so that's why having a viral video is so important, because it raises your channel up in the consciousness of millions of people, and then they're more likely to come back and see you again.
3:32
How smart is Veritasium?
3:32
Honestly, I don't think I'm terribly smart.
3:32
I consider my intelligence to be about average, but I think I work pretty hard, kind of stubborn, and that I won't let the idea go and I won't stop until I get to the bottom of something.
4:52
How to contact Veritasium?
4:58
Try me on Twitter, I'm, I'm pretty terrible at all social media.
4:58
There is a contact form on the website.
4:58
A couple years ago, someone emailed us and said, 'Why don't you do a video about bowling?'
4:58
I don't know anything about bowling, the science of bowling, I don't know what's going on there, but he had connections, got us into a bowling ball manufacturing facility, and I got to learn way more about bowling than I ever thought I would know, and it was fascinating, and there was a ton of science there, so I loved it.
4:58
How many subscribers does Veritasium?
4:58
I assume have at this point 12.7 million subscribers, I'm going to say I'm very appreciative.
4:58
I never thought that I would get to this number of subscribers.
4:58
I didn't think I would reach a million.
4:58
I wanted to be a creative person, but I was scared of being a creative person, and so I made YouTube videos.
4:58
From a good channel, I would say yes, but of course I'm biased.
4:58
One of my goals is, I want the video to be surprising, I want it to be interesting.
4:58
I made this video about the speed of light, and how it's really hard to measure the speed of light in one direction, which is a weird thing, because as a physicist going through, you think that everyone knows the speed of light, speed of light in one direction should be well known, but the truth is, whenever we've measured it, we've always measured it in two directions, not one direction, because measuring one direction is really hard.
5:12
Videos like that lead people to question, 'Hang on, is this legit?'
5:14
My answer is yes.
5:14
I had a physics professor from UCLA that made $10,000 that one of my videos was wrong.
5:25
I was excited about that bet, because it gave me the opportunity to explore the ideas, and I feel like maybe I hadn't done a good enough job in the first video, that bet gave me a chance to delve deeper and explain it better than I did the first time.
5:25
I don't always get it right the first time, but I'm always passionate about getting it right.
5:25
Is Veritasium wrong about electricity?
5:25
I don't think I'm wrong about electricity, and I think if you watch all of the commentaries that say like, 'Veritasium is wrong' in their headline, if you actually watch the video, you find inside the video, they're like, 'Actually, you know, technically he says everything he says is right,' but they want to use that as as clickbait.
5:25
I guess the way electricity works is counter-intuitive.
5:59
I feel like I explained it as well as anyone can.
6:04
If you disagree with me, then make your own video, because I would like to see that.
6:10
Is Veritasium a real element?
6:12
No, no, it is not.
6:16
It would be really cool if one day Veritasium was a real element, uh, but, but no.
6:20
Is Veritasium a physicist?
6:20
Yes, I studied engineering physics as my undergraduate degree at Queen's University in Canada.
6:31
Then I moved to Australia and I was going to go to film school, so I needed to do something here in Australia while I'm getting ready to go to film school, and I decided to enroll in a PhD.
6:31
So I had to do graduate level physics courses in order to get the PhD, but I was trying to merge my passions in science and film, and they had a physics education research group, and I pitched them on the idea of doing a PhD on how to make videos that would teach physics effectively.
6:56
So my PhD in physics is technically about, how do you make a film, and then you show that film to students, and what elements can you put in those films that make them more educational?
7:11
Veritasium best videos.
7:11
I do love this video that I made years ago, 'The Most Common Cognitive Bias, Do You Have It?' and it's about confirmation bias, which is I think something a lot of us suffer from.
7:24
Obviously, the most viewed video is this one, 'Shade Balls on the LA Reservoir,' because it's just such a weird thing to see 96 million black balls spread across a lake type thing, super weird.
7:33
Veritasium first video.
7:37
The first real Veritasium video, I would say, was one about the atomic hypothesis.
7:42
Richard Feynman asked the question, 'What if all of scientific knowledge was wiped out, and we could only leave one sentence to the people who came after, what one sentence would carry the most information on the path to recovering all the scientific knowledge?'
7:58
And for Feynman, it was the atomic hypothesis, the idea that everything in our universe is made up of atoms, and they attract each other when they're far apart, but kind of repel if they get too close, and that is about as good as you could do in a single sentence on the path to rediscovering all of knowledge.
8:14
Veritasium clickbait.
8:16
Hopefully this isn't people accusing me of making clickbait, but I do have a video about clickbait.
8:21
I called it, 'The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Clickbait,' and in that video, I reflect on my own terrible history with trying to title and thumbnail my own videos.
8:31
So my goal with the title and thumbnail is always to help people understand, what is this video actually about?
8:37
And often the most technical or clear or specific, like scientifically accurate way to represent that, is not the way that people will understand what that video is really about.
8:50
And this is a shift that I've only feel like I've realized in the last few years, and even now we are really, really bad at it, and I want to apologize to all the people out there, because sometimes I launch a video with a certain title and thumbnail, people don't know what we're talking about, and we switch it to a different title and thumbnail, and people feel like we're trying to manipulate them.
9:09
I am just trying to give the video the clearest possible title and thumbnail that really communicate what this video is about.
9:15
Veritasium our greatest delusion.
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For me, this is one of my most personal videos.
9:21
It's the idea that we think in some way that we all last forever.
9:29
That's a good delusion to have, I guess, when you're living is like not to be thinking about your mortality all the time, and I think it's how most of us live, but I do think it's important to recognize from time to time that we don't have that permanence.
9:29
Having that perspective hopefully allows you to focus on the really, really important things in life, so I hope when people watch that video, that's maybe a feeling that they get out of it, go for things that are really meaningful and spend their time on those things as opposed to the frivolous stuff that we fill our lives with.
9:29
How much does Derek Muller make?
9:59
Way more than I ever thought I would make.
10:02
It's always kind of impossible to know what a YouTuber makes, because you don't know where those views are coming from, and the rates are just so variable, and we have no way of checking on YouTube to say like, okay, is that really where this is coming from, we just take their word for it, they're like, 'Hey, this is this is what you get,' and you're like, 'I guess it's more than I made doing regular jobs, so I'm happy with it.'
10:22
Derek Muller PhD thesis.
10:26
I wrote a PhD thesis, which is about 300 pages.
10:29
I'm going to put a link to the thesis from my website.
10:31
Anyone who wants to read my PhD, you're more than welcome to.
10:35
I think it's very readable, because it's a PhD on how to make films, uh, to teach physics.
10:39
Derek Muller twisting the dragon's tail.
10:42
This is not something I like to do for fun in my spare time.
10:47
It is part of the name of a documentary that I did, and it goes through the whole history of radioactivity, discovering how we get energy from rocks and radiation, what can be used for, development of the bomb, all that sort of stuff.
11:01
And the reason why the term twisting the dragon's tail is there is because I think some of the scientists at Los Alamos who were working on the atomic bomb talked about tickling the dragon's tail, where they were trying to find the critical mass, the amount of this radioactive matter that you would need to cause a fission chain reaction, so you're experimenting with the very edge of causing a gigantic explosion.
11:25
Thank you, a wired audience, for hanging out with me.
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If you want to see more of what I do, go check out Veritasium.
11:25
They didn't even tell me to do that.
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I just did a shameless plug for my channel, because I'm a YouTuber.
11:25
It is in my blood now, it is in my DNA to say, you know what, go spell Veritasium up in the search bar.