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Hi, I'm M Night Shyamalan, and this is the Wired autocomplete interview.
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There's no moratorium on when do you tell the end of the movie.
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You don't ever, ever tell them what M. Night.
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Alright, let's see what it says.
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What does the M stand for in M Night?
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Um, it stands for Manoj, which is a very common name in, in India.
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It's not quite as common as Michael or something here, but it's pretty common.
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Everyone would mangle it in school.
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They'd call me Mango, or a million things, and so it kind of abbreviated to M eventually.
0:37
What was M. Night Shyamalan's first movie?
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It's a feature called Praying with Anger, and we shot it in India.
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I was 21 years old.
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We kind of did it the kind of classic way, you know, friends and family and borrowed and did everything we could, and there was one moment that I remember where I was really down and I was, you know, didn't know what I was doing and the sound guy came over, the Indian sound guy and said, "You remind me of Steven Spielberg when he came and he shot Close Encounters."
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And I was like, that, that like pumped me up and, you know, you know, it's just words of encouragement, but it always, it felt like he had ordained me to be something special or something because he used the word Steven Spielberg, who's like a god to me.
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So it really, it made a difference and I, you know, got all excited and we finished the movie.
1:08
What is the M. Night Shyamalan trilogy?
1:08
Ah, well, I don't really do sequels, so this was really kind of a, kind of a one-off thing in my life when I thought of the story of Unbreakable.
1:08
It was really complicated and very long and then I realized, hey, I won't be able to make this in one movie, maybe I can put it into multiple pieces.
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So I made Unbreakable as the first, the first movie of that and hoped I would make the other two.
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And then to, to be honest, I was kind of down about the reaction to Unbreakable when I, when it came out, so I said, "Ah, you know, I'll go make other movies."
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And I went and made Signs and The Village and all that stuff.
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And then many, many years later I went, "Hey, you know what?"
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"I, I think I should come back and make that the second movie of the trilogy which was Split and then I finally made Glass."
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So I was super lucky to, to get to finish the trilogy in this kind of weird and interesting way.
1:08
What is M. Night Shyamalan working on?
1:08
I'm releasing Old and I'm doing all the press for Old, but at the same time I'm writing this new movie.
1:08
It's actually a book that I optioned and I'm adapting it.
1:08
I'm about halfway through, to be exact, I'm on page 54 of the first draft.
1:08
It's sitting there right now.
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It's actually, I can, I can feel the moment that I'm on and I'm a little, you know, what's gonna happen next.
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I know what the character just said and something really bad is about to happen right after page 54, so I'm, I'm preparing how to, how to execute it, but that's what I'm working on right now.
2:57
What does Jim say, M. Night Shyamalan?
3:00
I don't even understand that.
3:04
What does that mean?
3:05
What does Jim say?
3:05
This is from The Office.
3:08
I don't currently reside in Scranton or in an apartment building in Scranton if that's really what this question is.
3:21
Is M. Night Shyamalan in Unbreakable?
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Yes.
3:16
I play a, a drug dealer in Unbreakable if you look carefully.
3:21
And my family are all doctors and all, I still stayed in the medical field, so you see that works out great.
3:27
Is M. Night Shyamalan in The Sixth Sense?
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Yes, play a doctor.
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See, you see the themes here.
3:35
Is M. Night Shyamalan in Signs?
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Yes, I had no medical connection in Signs, my character, but I, you know, this was one of the bigger parts that I played in Signs.
3:35
I played kind of the person that's involved in the death of the family member of in Signs.
3:54
And um, one of the, the fun memories I have is trying to do this really emotional scene in Signs and Mel Gibson is acting across from me and he's the least serious human being and he would, he started doing off-camera his lines as if he was Sean Connery, so in a Scottish accent and I'm like, the tears start to just drive right back up and I was like, Mel, I can, like, I, I don't know how to do this.
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I was feeling emotional and now I don't feel and he's laughing.
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I'm like, I'm not you, I don't know how to do this.
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So now I'm angry at you, so now that's what you got, you got angry at you, but it turned out fine and we used take five, which he knew was the best thing.
4:24
Is M. Night Shyamalan in Split?
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I, I am not in Split.
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I don't think I am.
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Is M. Night Shyamalan in The Village?
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Yes, uh, very small cameo towards the end.
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You kind of see me with a hat and in a reflection, uh, at the end of it if you haven't seen it.
4:55
Is M. Night Shyamalan in Always Sunny?
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I don't think I am in it, but I think they've referenced me, uh, in, in the show.
4:55
You know, if they want a cameo, we can do it for real, but they, I know there was a whole episode where they were trying to get into one of my movies.
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They're so sweet and what a great show that is, by the way.
5:02
How, M. Night Shyamalan, okay.
5:02
How, how old is M. Night Shyamalan?
5:06
What a great question.
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At this time, I'm actually 50 years old.
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Big birthday for me, so, uh, very excited and we're gonna have some friends over and all of that stuff.
5:24
How tall is M. Night Shyamalan?
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I'm like that, I'm that height, you know, where guys always lie about their height.
5:26
You know, it's like, you're close enough to six foot, yeah, I'm six foot-ish.
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Everybody that's light just right below six foot always goes, I'm sick.
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I don't know and they pretend like they don't even know exactly.
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You know, like, we haven't obsessively measured ourselves constantly to get to six foot.
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Probably more like five ten to five ten and a half, something in that world, but who's measuring really?
5:33
How did M. Night Shyamalan get his start?
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The moment I think that the industry started paying attention to me is when I wrote a script that no one paid me to write called Labor of Love and everyone bid on it.
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All these, all the studios bid on it and I was in my, living in my parents' guest room.
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I know there was no cell phones at that time so you're getting all these phone calls.
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They offered 200, 200,000.
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I was like, 200,000, what?
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I mean, my parents' catch, by the way, it was my sister's old room which was pink, just to add to the, the drama of it all.
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And so I'm in the pink room and then like 250, 300.
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Fox offered 400, New Line Cinema offered 500.
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And I was like, what?
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And finally I, I sold it to Fox.
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Ironically, after I sold it and I was, you know, I was pretty young and I hadn't done anything, they actually fired me as director.
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So it was very, very sad, a sad conclusion of that thing, but I did have enough money to go get a little home after that.
6:39
Me and my wife, we were just married, we moved out, so that was the really the beginning.
6:43
I was hired off of that to write Stuart Little and I became known as a writer, I think, first in the industry.
6:51
How to contact M. Night Shyamalan?
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Well, I'll tell you how not to.
6:54
You, you don't throw things over my gate to, you know, packages, you don't leave things on my car.
7:03
Don't do any of that, don't do any of that.
7:05
You know, I'm on social media and you, you can try to reach out, which I don't get to read everything, but, um, sometimes, you know, messages really touch me and, and I respond, so and don't reach out to my parents because they're always like, this person stopped by the house and I was like, "Mom, don't, don't, that, you know, they gave me this."
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I'm like, "Mom, just don't answer it."
7:27
Bryce Dallas Howard, M. Night Shyamalan, wow.
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So this is just a kind of a word association, is that what this is?
7:32
So Bryce, um, I saw in a play, uh, Off-Broadway, she was in a Shakespeare play, I think it was As You Like It and, uh, so taken with her and I was writing The Village at the time, so it was kind of a period piece and I remember going to see her in New York and just knew the second that the, the show was over that I'd found who I wanted to be the lead.
7:53
So I went to lunch with her and I said, "Hey, I'm gonna do this movie," and I handed her this script.
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And, um, it was really sweet.
8:00
Where M. Night Shyamalan, let's see, where did M. Night Shyamalan grow up?
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I grew up outside Philadelphia in the suburbs of a place called Penn Valley.
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It was, it was almost like being in a, like a Spielberg suburban movie.
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We're all on our bikes riding around the neighborhood every, every night after school and then try to get everybody ring the doorbell, can Joey play, can this person play and then we'd ride around and have adventures and then have to go home and go eat and do our homework.
8:28
Where did M. Night Shyamalan go to high school?
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I went to Episcopal Academy, which is outside Philly.
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That school had just become co-ed a few years before, so there were girls and this was the first time that I actually went to school with girls, so it was a very, um, distracting, uh, time for me.
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Those of you that have Indian immigrant parents, you know what I'm saying, very, you know, restricted and then go to school with girls and they're just sitting right next to you and the pretty girl's over there and very hard to, to learn algebra under those conditions.
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Where does M. Night Shyamalan live?
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I live outside Philly.
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We consider ourselves Philadelphians even though we're right outside Philadelphia.
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I'm going to Philly every week and, uh, that city is very, very dear to me and protect it, you know, with everything.
9:14
Where is M. Night Shyamalan now?
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Is that an existential question or a literal question?
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I'm gonna answer it existentially.
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Um, at the place where I want to make the most distinct pieces of art, uh, for the largest audience.
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I want the pieces to have teeth.
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I want them to be challenging and I want them to represent me.
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And I have the belief that the more distinct and different they are, the more they're going to resonate with you guys over time.
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This is obviously about the movie Signs.
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Is Signs a religious movie?
9:51
Wow, that's a good question.
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Most of my characters in my movies, I think it's about some belief system that I'm trying, I personally am struggling with.
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And because I went to, I'm not Catholic but I went to Catholic school for 10 years, that, you know, the form of a priest felt very, very natural, uh, to me as somebody to kind of carry the load.
10:10
Whenever I talk about what the movie is about, if it's about ghosts or comic books or aliens or you name it, those are really just kind of the clothing for a discussion about the crisis of faith.
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So I know the, the kind of the theories on, on Signs that, you know, the aliens represent inner demons.
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It's accurate in the sense that all of them are, you know, you know, the comic book story is about you believing in yourself.
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Um, that David Dunn doesn't believe in himself and Signs is that same way, um, about this world event and does this have meaning for you?
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Are we just going to get, you know, are we just food?
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You know, is, is there, is there meaning in everything and then he finds meaning in, in this moment.
10:52
What was wrong with the dog in Signs movie?
10:59
My mind was thinking that, uh, you know, as the aliens got closer and were, were nearby, the animals would be, uh, becoming violent and irrational, um, and, and acting erratically and that, that was one of the first indicators, uh, that there was something around that was very threatening, sending them into a certain type of place.
11:16
Something, something, something, something, Signs.
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Who played the alien in the movie Signs?
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Gosh, I'm forgetting this, the, the actor's name.
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He's so wonderful.
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He was so giving.
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I remember his energy and his kindness on set of just the opposite of the alien.
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He was very, very gracious and and made us all, uh, feel like we were doing kind of like a higher art form, like ballet or something.
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Yeah, a, a really wonderful man.
11:45
What does water symbolize in Signs movie?
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Water always has a kind of a special place for me in my movies.
11:51
There's a kind of a sense of purity from it or rebirth.
11:51
It's often used that way in religious ceremonies.
11:51
My parents and my mom, especially, who do a lot of Indian ceremonies that use water in this fashion and you see it a lot in different, different rituals.
12:03
You see it in a bunch of my movies and Lady in the Water and now I guess in Old as well, um, the kind of the proximity to water.
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It feels like there's some, you know, magical property to it, so it always made sense to me that that would be the thing that burns off the demons, let's say.
12:27
Alright, Sixth Sense, what does The Titanic and The Sixth Sense have?
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Should I do this other line in common?
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They both have Leonardo DiCaprio.
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No, they were both number one for a very long time in the movie theaters.
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I think Sixth Sense was either five or six weeks and Titanic was 10 weeks and since Titanic, I think these are the two movies that have been number one in the movie theaters for the longest.
12:50
Ah, see that's funny, that's funny too.
12:50
Is The Sixth Sense, let's see what's this say, is The Sixth Sense a three-act narrative?
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Look at this film school.
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I'm not sure.
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I don't, it's funny, I don't really think like that, but, uh, I'm sure it's true because what feels natural, right, is that kind of the setup, the conflict and then the, the kind of, um, the escalation and that third act to, um, the resolution.
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I think my movies have a kind of a, it's by the nature of them because there's a revelation.
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There's, there's probably a fourth movement in them in those last moments in these movies as you realize something or there's kind of a revelation of some kind.
13:30
I don't know if that falls into the, the three-act structure like that.
13:32
What are the clues in The Sixth Sense?
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Gosh, you know, I'm sure there's many more than I will think of off the top of my head, but we use the color red to indicate the other world, like nagging at him.
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And I think, you know, him staring at the doorknob of the, the, the things that were not ripe, that his consciousness is not acknowledging because he has to stay blind essentially as he's walking through life a bit.
13:57
What's the twist in The Sixth Sense?
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Can't tell you that.
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I just, if at this point if you haven't, you know, seen it, you just go, go watch it.
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This is how you do it.
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You go and watch this movie and then you find another person and you ask them before you say anything, "Have you seen it?"
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And then if they say yes, then you can openly talk about it away from others, kind of situation.
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That's it, that's it.
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There's no other way to talk about it.
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That's it.
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Okay, plot twist, been bing all along.